Some of you might have heard about this 'wonder in the heavens' that is supposed to be seen on September 23, 2017. Is this something we should take seriously? I don't think so.
- Revelations Chapter 23
- Revelation 12 Bible Hub
- Revelation 12 September 23 2017 Picture
- Revelation 12 1 17
- Revelation 23 13
Do we worship the creation or the creator? Which should we look to?
Revelation 12:1-6; On September 23-24, 2017 there will be an astronomical event in the sky involving the constellation Virgo which looks remarkably like the ‘great sign' that is described in Revelation 12:1 when reading the prophecy as literally as possible. On that date, according to various Internet sources, the heavens themselves will be a tableau of Revelation 12 in the Bible: A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of 12 stars. She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth. Aug 31, 2017 BIRTH PAINS, REVELATION 12 AND SEPTEMBER 23 Birth involves pain and blood. Following the sign of September 23, the Church should expect to suffer pain and bloodshed. The Dragon (now blocked out on the NASA site) is there and waiting. The 'Great Sign' that the Apostle John saw in Revelation 12:1-2 appears to have occurred from September 23rd to 24th in 2017 (Tishrei 3 on the Jewish calendar). This was never a countdown to the rapture, second coming, or any other end-of-the-world event, but only to the prophesied sign in the heavens, because we do not know for sure the exact day or hour of end time events and they might happen many weeks or months after the sign.
It seems to me that when we try to decipher signs in the earth or skies that is very similar to what paeans did. After all, aren't these 'signs,' like Virgo, for instance, named after Greek mythology? The very basis by which people are judging this so-called sign is rooted in idolatry. Why are so many taking this seriously?
For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. – Romans 16:18
It can be easy to be fooled by people who have a lot charisma and passion about what they are saying. Add some fancy visual aids and then you really get people going. If we see the illusions for what they are, we see vanity and deceit. It's sorcery. it's idolatry. It's Satanic. We don't need a lot of props and fancy words to preach the gospel. We don't need long beards and robes either.
I don't claim to know what the Revelation 12 sign means. In-fact, it is very puzzling to me in a lot of ways. But, I do know it is not this. We don't have to be full of knowledge to perceive when the Spirit is against something. It just does not feel right, and some of the things these so-called prophets are saying about this 'wonder in the heavens' especially does not feel right.
If this is to be a kind of 'birthing' then those who are being born will be killed because this idol is a whore. That I know. Hopefully nothing will come of it at all, but I will say that if you reading this are on the fence about it or have taken this sign for fact, please prayerfully reconsider. Just because someone comes preaching Jesus does not mean they are on His side. There are many who come in the name of Jesus who are sent to deceive, divide, and destroy – and many take advantage of the already corrupt and weakened state of the church.
If you feel that something is off with mainstream Christianity and are looking for the truth, this is not the way to go. These people and so many like them are often worse than the traditions. I'd rather fellowship with a traditional Christian than one of these any day. Please do not fall for these kinds of tricks, but instead have faith that Jesus alone is all you need. You don't need me or anyone else. Even those who say, 'don't look to me, look to Jesus.' They will say anything to appear humble, wise, and sent from the Lord when they are not.
Seek the Holy Spirit with all your heart. He will help keep you from these things. Being born of the Spirit is the only 'rebirth' we should be concerned about.
Geez, they even use the Holy Spirit to fuel this 're-birthing' idea. As I type I realize that I need to make another point. Stop looking for a pouring out of the 'spirit of Elijah.' I don't have all the understanding on this, but I'm sure the Lord will help me with this so I expect another post is to come soon.
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Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.
And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.
- Revelation 12:1-6
On September 23-24, 2017 there will be an astronomical event in the sky involving the constellation Virgo which looks remarkably like the ‘great sign' that is described in Revelation 12:1 when reading the prophecy as literally as possible.
This event is similar to the Star of Bethlehem theory which was developed around 2001 by lawyer and professor Rick Larson of Texas A&M University using today's modern tools of astronomical software like Stellarium, which accurately displays what the sky looked like or will look like from any location on planet Earth, for any date.
Revelations Chapter 23
The compelling story that has been developing for the last 3 years is only becoming more interesting and is worthy of consideration.
Revelation 12 Bible Hub
Before I begin to share the story I want to emphasize that what is being discussed has everything to do with astronomy and Biblical prophecy, but has nothing at all to do with astrology (fortune telling by the stars) or date setting which is the confident proclamation that the Rapture of the Church is set to occur on a specific upcoming date and time. To be fair, this story is conjecture, as any opinions put forth have been formed on the basis of incomplete information.
Revelation 12 September 23 2017 Picture
First, let's start with a few scriptures to keep in mind while considering this.
It isthe glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
– Proverbs 25:2
Revelation 12 1 17
Then God said, 'Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years;
– Genesis 1:14
'Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades,
Or loose the belt of Orion?
Can you bring out Mazzaroth in its season?
Or can you guide the Great Bear with its cubs?
Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?
Can you set their dominion over the earth?
– Job 38:31-33
So in searching out the meaning of the prophecy found in Revelation 12, we see that God placed the stars and planets first and foremost as ‘signs'. We also see that giving consideration to the Constellations is not something God prohibits, as the Hebrew word ‘Mazzaroth‘, which is only mentioned in Job 38:32, literally means the 12 signs of the Zodiac and their 36 associated constellations.
Let's take a look at a couple of the original Hebrew word in Genesis 1:14. The word for ‘signs‘ is ‘owth‘ which means a ‘sign', a ‘signal', an ‘omen', a ‘warning'. The word for ‘seasons‘ is ‘mow'ed‘, which means ‘the appointed time', ‘sacred season', ‘set feast', the ‘appointed time or signal'. Keep these two words in mind.
On November 20, 2016 the planet Jupiter enters the torso area of the constellation Virgo, the Virgin. Historically, Jupiter is referred to as ‘The King Planet' by many cultures. The Hebrew name for Jupiter is ‘Tzedek‘ which means righteousness, as in Melchi-zedek, the High Priest. So what we have here is a picture of the conception of the King of Righteousness entering the womb of the Virgin. However, while in exile on the island of Patmos, John the Revelator was given this vision some 80 years after the birth of Christ, so if the picture is prophetic it must have some other significance, as it is obviously not foretelling the birth of Christ.
Now the planet Jupiter starts to do something interesting after entering Virgo's womb that is called ‘Retrograde', which as a result of Earth's elliptical orbit, which causes Jupiter to appears to move back and forth within Virgo's womb for a period of 9 months, 2 weeks and 6 days…which is 41 weeks, or 293 days total, which is the normal gestation or period of time between conception and birth for the development of a human baby. On September 9, 2017 Jupiter the Righteous King is birthed by exiting from in between the legs of Virgo.
2 weeks later, on September 23, 2017 we see what is being called the Revelation 12 Sign appear in the heavens. Using Stellarium software, if you have enough patience, it can be shown that this particular event has not happened since the birth of Christ, and does not happen again for at least several hundreds of years in the future. At some point, looking for another occurrence just seems to be a fruitless endeavor. Specifically, what happens is the constellation Virgo is clothed in the Sun, with the Moon at her feet, and above her head are a crown of 12 stars comprised of the 9 stars in the constellation of Leo the Lion of Judah, and the 3 planets Mercury, Mars and Venus. Now understand this, 2,000 years ago people did not know what a planet was. Their understanding was that these celestial objects were bright like stars, but unlike the stars which were fixed in their relative positions, they moved across the sky, so the word ‘asteres planetai‘1 was used to describe the planets, which in Greek literally means ‘wandering stars'. So here we have 9 stars + 3 wandering stars for a total of 12 stars above Virgo's head, just as is described in Revelation 12.
Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.
And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.
- Revelation 12:1-6
On September 23-24, 2017 there will be an astronomical event in the sky involving the constellation Virgo which looks remarkably like the ‘great sign' that is described in Revelation 12:1 when reading the prophecy as literally as possible.
This event is similar to the Star of Bethlehem theory which was developed around 2001 by lawyer and professor Rick Larson of Texas A&M University using today's modern tools of astronomical software like Stellarium, which accurately displays what the sky looked like or will look like from any location on planet Earth, for any date.
Revelations Chapter 23
The compelling story that has been developing for the last 3 years is only becoming more interesting and is worthy of consideration.
Revelation 12 Bible Hub
Before I begin to share the story I want to emphasize that what is being discussed has everything to do with astronomy and Biblical prophecy, but has nothing at all to do with astrology (fortune telling by the stars) or date setting which is the confident proclamation that the Rapture of the Church is set to occur on a specific upcoming date and time. To be fair, this story is conjecture, as any opinions put forth have been formed on the basis of incomplete information.
Revelation 12 September 23 2017 Picture
First, let's start with a few scriptures to keep in mind while considering this.
It isthe glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
– Proverbs 25:2
Revelation 12 1 17
Then God said, 'Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years;
– Genesis 1:14
'Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades,
Or loose the belt of Orion?
Can you bring out Mazzaroth in its season?
Or can you guide the Great Bear with its cubs?
Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?
Can you set their dominion over the earth?
– Job 38:31-33
So in searching out the meaning of the prophecy found in Revelation 12, we see that God placed the stars and planets first and foremost as ‘signs'. We also see that giving consideration to the Constellations is not something God prohibits, as the Hebrew word ‘Mazzaroth‘, which is only mentioned in Job 38:32, literally means the 12 signs of the Zodiac and their 36 associated constellations.
Let's take a look at a couple of the original Hebrew word in Genesis 1:14. The word for ‘signs‘ is ‘owth‘ which means a ‘sign', a ‘signal', an ‘omen', a ‘warning'. The word for ‘seasons‘ is ‘mow'ed‘, which means ‘the appointed time', ‘sacred season', ‘set feast', the ‘appointed time or signal'. Keep these two words in mind.
On November 20, 2016 the planet Jupiter enters the torso area of the constellation Virgo, the Virgin. Historically, Jupiter is referred to as ‘The King Planet' by many cultures. The Hebrew name for Jupiter is ‘Tzedek‘ which means righteousness, as in Melchi-zedek, the High Priest. So what we have here is a picture of the conception of the King of Righteousness entering the womb of the Virgin. However, while in exile on the island of Patmos, John the Revelator was given this vision some 80 years after the birth of Christ, so if the picture is prophetic it must have some other significance, as it is obviously not foretelling the birth of Christ.
Now the planet Jupiter starts to do something interesting after entering Virgo's womb that is called ‘Retrograde', which as a result of Earth's elliptical orbit, which causes Jupiter to appears to move back and forth within Virgo's womb for a period of 9 months, 2 weeks and 6 days…which is 41 weeks, or 293 days total, which is the normal gestation or period of time between conception and birth for the development of a human baby. On September 9, 2017 Jupiter the Righteous King is birthed by exiting from in between the legs of Virgo.
2 weeks later, on September 23, 2017 we see what is being called the Revelation 12 Sign appear in the heavens. Using Stellarium software, if you have enough patience, it can be shown that this particular event has not happened since the birth of Christ, and does not happen again for at least several hundreds of years in the future. At some point, looking for another occurrence just seems to be a fruitless endeavor. Specifically, what happens is the constellation Virgo is clothed in the Sun, with the Moon at her feet, and above her head are a crown of 12 stars comprised of the 9 stars in the constellation of Leo the Lion of Judah, and the 3 planets Mercury, Mars and Venus. Now understand this, 2,000 years ago people did not know what a planet was. Their understanding was that these celestial objects were bright like stars, but unlike the stars which were fixed in their relative positions, they moved across the sky, so the word ‘asteres planetai‘1 was used to describe the planets, which in Greek literally means ‘wandering stars'. So here we have 9 stars + 3 wandering stars for a total of 12 stars above Virgo's head, just as is described in Revelation 12.
Now September 23, 2017 is NOT just any ordinary day. This happens to be Feast of Trumpets or Yom Teruah, 1 of the 7 moedim, or ‘appointed times‘ that God established in Leviticus 23:2. These festivals are often referred to as the Jewish Feast Days, and commemorate specific times and event's in Israel's history when the Messiah, Jesus / Yeshua, met with His people. Of the 7 significant Appointed Times; 3 are in the Spring, 1 in the Summer, and 3 are in the Fall. In order, they are:
- Passover (Pesach) … Jesus died on Passover.
- Feast of Unleavened Bread (Chag HaMotzi) … Jesus was entombed on the Feast of Unleavened Bread
- Feast of First Fruits (Yom HaBikkurim) … Jesus rose from the dead on the Feast of First Fruits
- Pentecost (Feast of Weeks or Shavuot) … the Church was born.
- Feast of Trumpets (Yom Teruah, also known as Yom HaKeseh which is the ‘Hidden Day') … thought to signify the Rapture.
- Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) … thought represent Israel being reconciled to their Messiah, Yeshua.
- Feast of Tabernacles (Succot) … the 2nd Coming, when Jesus / Yeshua returns to Earth with His Church, to defeat Satan and to rule from Jerusalem.
Since God fulfilled the first 4 Appointed Times to the day, and since God is a God of order, is it unreasonable to expect that He will follow through with the pattern He has already established, and fulfill the last 3 Appointed Times to the very day?
Part of the difficulty in considering this possibility is tied to the Church having lost touch with her Jewish roots these last 2,000 years. Jesus is a Jew, the disciples were Jews, and the Bible was written by Jews. Another part of the difficulty in understanding the Bible to it's fullest is that we read the Bible in English, which is translated from Latin, which is translated from Greek. It really helps to use a tool like BlueLetterBible.org to dig into the original Greek, or original Hebrew in the case of the Old Testament, and to search the usage of specific words throughout the Bible.
Revelation 23 13
The predictable, bible based refutation to the notion that God might actually Rapture His Church on Feast of Trumpets is based on the verse in Matthew 24:36, 'But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,but My Father only.'
However, according to Jewish tradition, the phrase 'no one knows the day or the hour' is a Jewish idiom which would have been commonly understood by those who Jesus was speaking to, as they were all Jews. The meaning of this phrase relates to the Jewish calendar which is based on a 30 day Lunar cycle. Each month, two reliable witnesses would look to the sky for evidence of the first sliver of the New Moon. Having not seen the New Moon, the two witnesses would say, 'No one knows the day or the hour'. Once the New Moon was spotted, the two witnesses would report it to the High Priest at the Temple, who would independently question them before officially proclaiming the first day of the new month. Once the new month was proclaimed fires would be lit on top of mountains within line of sight to spread the message throughout the land.
[ continuation of this article will include the following ]
- Discuss the meaning of Feast of Trumpets
- Yom HaKeseh, the Hidden Day, why this Feast must be 2 days long based on sighting of the New Moon by two reliable witnesses.
- No one knows the Day or the Hour … common interpretation compared to the Jewish idiom of the ‘watchers'.
- Discuss how the Virgin represents Israel, the male child represents the Church, and how the dragon may possibly be symbolically collective as well.
- The Church is referred to in the ‘male' form in – 1 Thessalonians 5:1-6, as ‘Sons of Light' and ‘Sons of the Day'.
- G.H. Pember considered this in his book ‘Earth's Earliest Ages' copyright 1876.
- The word ‘harpazo' is used to describe the Rapture, not the Ascension.
- Daniel was told that ‘knowledge would increase'..that the vision was sealed up until the End Times… isn't it now being unsealed?
- Touch on Daniel's 70th Week cracked by Sir Robert Anderson of Scotland Yard. (LINK TO SEPARATE ARTICLE)
- Explanation of Tribulation being a Week of Years, with the Mid-Tribulation event being the Abomination of Desolation.
- Touch on the Incredible parallels between the traditional Jewish wedding and Christ the Groom coming for The Church, His Bride. (LINK TO SEPARATE ARTICLE)
- Interesting that Comet P67, the Rosetta Comet, is at Virgo's feet next to the Moon on 09/23/2017 … too much for coincidence, but what does it mean?
